Searching for the Goetz German Village (2022) Wednesday, April 13, 2022

One eveing in early 2Q2022, I was reviewing posts in my blog - when I was reminded of the clue about Louis Goetz's passport application in 1896 (See this post).

I went to the FamilySearch catalog and typed in  Germany, Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha. One of the reference books about the area that came up, with a digitized version, was: 

"Geographical names in the duchy of Gotha and the Thuringian forest. Indexed." 

"Germany, Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha - Names, Geographical"

I searched the book for a map and then spent an hour or so looking for the village "Ober Mallia" aka "Ober Mehler".  

I found it!! It is northeast of Muhlhausen (the geographic center of Germany).  This graphic shows page 610 with a focus on the detail around Ober Mehler (abreviated Ob. Mehler).  

From the index, page 585, it says Mehler, Ober information is on page 389 (E2).

   

  

I did a little research about the area ... just scanning some pages in Wikipedia. One item of note was this Wikipedia page on dialects in the area. I was trying to imagine someone saying "Ober Mallia" ... and how that would sound to an American.  

Our Goetz ancestors' dialect details may shed some light on this since "{t}he Thuringian dialect is characterized by a rounding of the vowels, the weakening of consonants of Standard German". 

Their dialect is: Nordthüringisch / North Thuringian: around Mühlhausen and Nordhausen 

More to research ......

Another book that might be of interest: 

"Collection analysis report: The Thuringian states : Summary of Family History Library microfilm holdings"

References:

1. Die Flurnamen des Herzogtums Gotha und die Forstnamen des Thüringerwaldes zwischen Weinstraße im Westen und der Schorte (Schleuse) im Osten; familysearch.org

2. Collection analysis report: The Thuringian states : Summary of Family History Library microfilm holdings; familysearch.org

3. Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringian_dialect

4. Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxe-Coburg_and_Gotha

5. Ober Mehler in Meyers https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20374051

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Thoughts on Next Steps for Carl J. Kluge (Aug 2018) Saturday, August 8, 2020

Looking for Carl Julius Kluge birth record abt 1852, Samter area
Parents married in Samter in 1850 (church record found).

Carl Julius Kluge doesn't come up in the BaSIA database.

Civil records for 1850s aren't in the catalog.

Look at digital film for Samter church records:
Maybe Catholic?

Akta zgonów 1837-1841 -- Akta urodzeń 1842-1850 -- Akta małżeństw 1842-1860 -- Akta urodzeń 1851-1860
Family History Library
International Film
1194522
8024119

Taufen 1840-1868
Family History Library
International Film
1194747
8024927

Militär Gemeinde: Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1834-1884
Family History Library
International Film
172519
Items 1-3
102469410

Taufen 1834-1875, 1834-1884 Heiraten 1834-1875, 1834-1883 Tote 1834-1875, 1834-1883 Konfirm. 1834-1883
Family History Library
International Film
72910
102469391

Or maybe Obornik ?? Not sure about this film
Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1775-1794 Heiraten, Tote 1845
Family History Library
International Film
747343
8024667

Akta małżeństw 1832-1844 Akta zgonów 1832-1856 Akta urodzeń 1845-1860 Akta małżeństw 1845-1858
Family History Library
International Film
1191165
8118456

This item is available on microfilm at this family history center.

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Looking for Filles du Roi (March 2019) Monday, December 16, 2019

Until today, I didn't have any identified filles du roi (King's Daughter) in my family ancestry. 

While looking up a random couple of ancestors in an on-line database, I saw a note that said they were descendants of a fille du roi.

The couple is Francois Courtois and Marie Josephe Roiroux dit Laliberte, married in 1756 in French Canada. 

After reading this fact and with the help of the on-line PRDH, I spent about 45 minutes searching back on each branch to identify any marriage that occurred during the filles du roi period (roughly 1663-1673). For each that did, I then compared the maternal ancestor's name to the list of filles du roi in a couple of books a) King's Daughters and Founding Mothers, The Filles du Roi, 1663-1673 by Peter J. Gagne and b) Les Filles du Roi en Nouvelle-France by Silvio Dumas.

It turns out that Marguerite Berger, Francois' grandmother, was a fille du roi from Saint-Sauveur, Ile-de-France, Paris.  She was born in 1653 to Madeleine Jeanne and Jean Berger. After her father died,  she left France for Canada, at age 19.

Marguerite first entered into a marriage contract with Jacques Buissiere. That was annulled and then she and Charles Courtois were married 9 Oct 1670 in Quebec. Her dowry was 300 livres and she received another 50 livres from the king. They lived in Lauzon and had six children.

Filles du roi are more generally known as the founding women of French Canada. They were recruited to come to French Canada by Louis XIV.

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Berns of Friemersheim, Germany (Aug 2018) Thursday, August 2, 2018

LDS Film 008110366/490207 (online digital via familysearch.org), was able to find the:
a. 1839 marriage for Herman Berns and Margaret Steinhaus.
b. 1811 marriage for Catherine Schumackers (listed as Trinken) and Diedrick Berns
c. 1816 marriage for Sibilla Halfman and Tillman Steinhaus
d. 1790 - possibly the marriage for Wilhelm der Streepen

LDS Film 490254/8110371 (online digital via familysearch.org), was able to find the:
a. 1816 birth for Herman Berns and his brother Jacob

There are films not yet digitized of the civil records which would be good to review.

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Following Rappolds/Fabers Back Further into the 1600s (Almost) (May 2018) Friday, May 11, 2018

Started by searching the familysearch catalog for any material on Michelbach an der Luecke.
The film 575068 came up with marriages for 1646-1652, 1664-1742 for Michelbach an der Luecke.

The film was digitized and thus online. Michelbach is around film page 508.
I snapped pages for Faber and Rappolds ... still need to figure out where they fit in the tree.

There were also several Ziegler entries but I did not snap those pages because I did not recognize the people.

Film title is Evangelische Kirchenbuchauszuege, 1586-1811
Author is Max Cramer from 1969.

pg 210 - Johann Georg Rappolt - death record
S.d. Beckhen, Jacob (?what does this mean)
He died in 1684
He was the servant, farm hand, apprentice, errand boy or laborer (knecht) of Jacob Beckhen
Married to Catharina Hornung daughter of deceased Leonhardt Leutzenweyler

pg 212 - Paulus Faber death record 1690
Son of the deceased Andreas gew. Beckhen
ein Wandersgesell - travelling journeyman (gesell after 3 years)
Born Beckhens from Haussen ear Franckfurth a Meyn (Frankfurt)
Wife Barbara Horner daughter of Hannss Buwerns  from Hengstfeld

page 241 marriage 22 Jul 1732 Marie Mag Rappoldt only daughter of Johann Leonhardt Becken from Wildenholtz

Johann Michael Duerr, (died in feb 4 1776 in Steinbach) youngest son of Andreas B.
Citizen and weaver in Gailroth
Mother is Ger (Ger... ?) from Michelbach

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There's another film entry Kirchenbuch, 1646-1913 for Evangelische Kirche Michelbach an der Luecke (OA Gerabronn). It is film number 1528594, 95 and 96. They have the locked camera symbol but there is also a magnifying glass that says "search the index".

When I click on this symbol, the index comes up in the family search window -- 6700 entries. The Michelbach entries start on screen 19, half way down.

There are some Kohlers on this film from the 1829-1888.
Limited search to "Michelbach" and reviewed 879 records. Nothing interesting

Many Zieglers, and a few Hessenauers show up in this film (1528594).

On film 1528592 there are taufen for 1728/Georg Michael (hard to read) and marriage for Georg Michael/1757.

Then there's a taufen for Johann Michael Rappold/1763.
We tried to find the death for Johann Michael/1785, 3 Nov, but it was not on those pages (so maybe it is mis-indexed)

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